Possible bug...

Post by **Programmer** » Mon 04 Dec, 2006 7:03 pm

Hi Shari,

I just posted to the forum to say that the next beta is out, but what it doesn't include is a fix for the bug you notified about card data. I tried with the files you sent, switching decks, editing the notes, gathering, sorting, switching again etc, all to no avail - no bug.

I did get somewhere with the formats though. I notice that if you change the format to ANSI then the notes do not show. The format should be UTF-8 or Unicode, when you put that back the notes show up OK again. Connected with this there is one thing to watch out for though - if you save the notes in a different format or edit them at all in notepad or whatever while you are using the deck in the program your changes will probably be lost straight away. The card editing form does autosave type operations all the time which will overwrite any changes, so you have to switch decks first. I know because I did this a couple of times by mistake while testing.

If you start a new text file and copy the notes in, does that fix it?

Cheers
Richard

Post by **WebWeaver** » Sat 09 Dec, 2006 6:28 am

ok it's still doing it. I used card data files from my laptop that are working on the final release. When I did it this time, not only is it wiping out the notes, what I type in one is actually being shown with the next deck when I switch. Let me know what you want me to do... I'll try installing the Beta on my laptop tomorrow to see if it does it there. I'm fairly sure I did that last time and it did.

Shari

Post by **WebWeaver** » Sat 09 Dec, 2006 7:55 am

ok it is definitely related to the UTF-8 thing, the old version number and the -1 data. I have made many edits in text based programs as I found this easier. Because I opened the file I'm using on the laptop and saved it to my desktop verses coping and made sure to save it as a UTF-8 and it didn't lose what I added or lose all the notes. So I guess I'm just going to have to re-save all my files as I don't know which ones I've changed in notepad versus ones I've changed in Orphalese.

Actually I just removed the -1 table data and didn't change the version number and it still worked. +

Ok I think I found it.. it had something to do with the Fey deck, cuz it was happening again when I went back to switching between the DruidCraft & Fey. So to put this to the test I'm going back to my original druidcraft file after deleting the Fey file and making OPH recreate a blank one. Bingo... it isn't doing it anymore, so I'm not sure if any of that other stuff matters at all, and I have no idea what was wrong with the fey data file. If you want me to try anything else let me know.

Shari

Post by **WebWeaver** » Sat 09 Dec, 2006 8:21 am

Found an unclosed tag ... so that might be what was causing all of this. Ok I fixed the tag and just saved and it was still happening. Fixed the tag and saved as UTF-8 and it's all better so I do think it had something to do with the unclosed tag but it also had to do with the UTF-8 thing, not sure exactly what that means... but at least it's not happening anymore.

Shari

Post by **Programmer** » Sat 09 Dec, 2006 3:11 pm

Hi Shari,

Well, I am glad that it is working now. It sometimes happens that one problem can lead to something else unexpected happening and then it is not clear what caused things to go wrong in the first place.

It sounds like saving to an the ascii format had something to do with it. The program uses the UTF-8 format in order to ensure that the card data files can contain data in the widest possible number of character sets (the ascii format is just a mess as soon as you go far from the traditional latin characters). There is no reason one shouldn't edit the card files using any XML editor, but it is worth remembering this issue and bearing it in mind. Most programs will remember your preference from the last time you do a save as.

Cheers
Richard :)

Post by **Merlin** » Sun 10 Dec, 2006 1:48 pm

Hi Richard,

What I have found is that if you are creating a new carddata file, everything is okay......
(just don't save it (the card) until you're satisfied with the results!) After that, all you can do is use wordpad, etc. to change it. (If you want to keep the changes, that is....)

Is there a (rough) estimate as to when we can say goodbye to this bug?

Take Care,

Marvin

Post by **Lethann** » Mon 11 Dec, 2006 4:36 am

I find this kinda odd. I've been editing all the carddata and personalnotes for all my decks almost constantly and have never encountered this problem.

What I DID notice is that there are two save buttons, each seperate for the LWB and Personal Notes. Hitting one doesn't not save the other (unlike how it used to in previous versions).

Or are you all using the beta versions?

Post by **Programmer** » Mon 11 Dec, 2006 7:17 pm

Hiya,

I think what Marvin is describing is something different from what WebWeaver was reporting. WebWeaver's problem just affected files which she had edited using a text editor and saved in a different format to the original UTF-8. By the way Lethann, I think the problem you reported on the other thread (to do with reading notes) is likely to be related to this. You could try opening the file in notepad and saving it with UTF-8 encoding and seeing if that fixes the problem. (The UTF-8 encoding allows a file to be readable and editable in many more languages than the older ansii/ascii encodings, which is why the program uses it).

I will take a look at having the program do this automatically, at the moment it doesn't because the problem had not come to light before this.

You are right about the two save buttons in the regular program. The beta of 7.6.2 saves automatically when you move between cards or close the window, so it doesn't have a save button at all.

Marvin, are you using the beta or the current version of the program, and is the problem still happening?

Cheers
Richard

Post by **Merlin** » Mon 11 Dec, 2006 8:22 pm

Hi Richard,

I m running the beta....

(And the problem is still happening.)

Take Care,

Marvin

Post by **Programmer** » Tue 12 Dec, 2006 7:20 pm

Hi Marvin,

I have given it another test for thoroughness and it is definitely working for me. I wonder if anyone else has had this happen (i.e. that the program doesn't save any edits of card notes except for the first time you use a deck - that on all the subsequent occasions the edits are lost)? I would be especially interested in hearing from anyone who is using Windows 98, because (assuming you are still using it, Marvin) this might have something to do with it - although I can't think why it would.

Cheers
Richard