Dealing face down in Free Selection

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Dealing face down in Free Selection

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I think I may have found a bug here, or I'm not understanding how it should work.
I'm going to go by how I have the settings set for both the Deck, and the Free Selection (FS) and what it does.

Deck: Face Down
FS: Face Down

Spread dealt face down.
Top of deck dealt face down.
FS: Dealt face down.
FS Spread: Dealt face up (you can't see the card while selecting).

Deck: Face Up
FS: Face Down

Spread dealt face up.
Top deck dealt face up.
FS: Dealt face up (you can't see the card while selecting).
FS Spread: Dealt face up (you can't see the card while selecting).

Deck: Face Down
FS: Face Up

Spread dealt face down.
Top deck dealt face down.
FS: dealt face down (you can see the card your selecting).
FS Spread: dealt face up (you can see the card your selecting).

So basically if you want the cards dealt face down, you can't use Free Selection and a Spread if you want to turn them over individually. It seems in free selection, it's really closer to select face down, or select face up, they will be dealt face up no matter what setting you have.

Hope this all makes sense.
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Re: Dealing face down in Free Selection

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Hi Shari,

Er, well yes. I am not sure if the bug is more one in the programming language or the English language though. "Select face up" would definitely be more descriptive than "Deal face up" for free selection. The original idea was so you could do a "blind selection", moving back and forth across the fanned out deck until you felt that a particular card was right, without being able to see what it was.

If you wanted to build up a spread card by card it would not make sense to have the program working in this mode (unless you were training as a Jedi maybe). When the spread is dealt out that is always face up too, in that case because the assumption was that people wanting to deal a spread in this way probably wanted to take a screen capture to either keep or email to someone.

I am curious as to why you might want to reveal the cards one by one, even though you know what each one is. The only reason that occurs to me would be if you making a kind of video presentation, but then you could just deal out the spread and turn them over before you started recording. Am I missing something here? I agree that there is something here you can't easily do, but is it something you would really need to?

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Re: Dealing face down in Free Selection

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I do think it is somewhat a matter of wording. The 2nd option is really about selecting face up or down. However if you have selected that the deck be dealt face down, I would think it would be face down no matter how the card were selected. As to why someone might want to do that, some people don't like to see the entire spread until they have gone through each card individually. The 1st example, imho should deal the cards face down.

I agree the bottom one is kinda silly, why look while your selecting, but then not look once the spread is dealt. I just posted all the options and what happen when they were selected.

I guess in my mind if you have the deck set to deal face down, it should deal face down no matter how the selection is made. The options should be independent of each other. I think it would also be less confusing. It's why I wasn't sure what the 2nd option meant, and originally thought it changed the deal as well as the selection. How you have it worded in the program is correct, if when you have Deal Face Up unselected it always dealt the cards face down.

Hope that makes a bit more sense ...
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Re: Dealing face down in Free Selection

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That does make sense, which isn't to say that your first post didn't.

As long as all it boils down to is a slight fuzziness with the overall logic/wording of the labels I am not too bothered. For me the important thing is that everyone can do what they need to, whether it is generate a specific screen capture, choose a card without knowing what it is, etc. The wording of the labels sometimes has to sacrifice something in order to be concise, because even after I have checked that there is enough room for it in English I have to worry about the other languages, especially German, which can be pretty verbose.

Obviously the jedi comment was a joke, but it might be fun to play with the Psy-Card deck whilst in blind free selection mode (and a lot less painful that that floaty laser ball thing!).
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